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    Has anyone seen the Story of Stuff movie? About the western obsession with a consumer based society and what that means? It's worth a look if you haven't seen it.

    I've been thinking about the concepts of "good citizens" being the ones who go on acquiring "stuff" while I've been looking at media stories about the floods. If ever something was going to come along to challenge your belief in how important your "stuff" is this would be it.

    I've noticed a few things. Firstly and foremost, the incredible enthusiasm that people not affected by the floods have for giving people who have lost "stuff", "stuff" to replace their "stuff" with. Which I suspect is for at least some of the givers an excuse to get rid of "stuff" that you no longer use to make way for more new "stuff" that you want to own. It's almost like it is an affront to the foundation of society to have someone out there not have the required amount of "stuff" in order to belong to the dominant society.

    I've also noticed the vast amounts of "stuff" discarded onto foot paths that are being picked up and dumped en masse without so much as a cursory second glance about how that waste could be a useful input somewhere, other than as landfill at the municipal dump. Obviously it is hard to be sure about it when you are sitting in front of the TV, but I have seen a restaurant that was tossing out metal shelving with great gusto, because they had been inundated. I can understand that chip board shelving would be useless, but why could they not have taken a pressure hose to the metal shelving and kept it? Is it just an excuse to get new "stuff" courtesy off your insurance company?

    I'm away from the worst hit areas, and I don't have a ute or a trailer, but I keep seeing the streets lined with waterlogged "stuff" and thinking about how much useful "stuff" you could rehome if you had the urge! Like a fridge with ruined electricals but perfectly good seals that you could turn into a solar dryer like the one in Paul Wheaton's video. Or laundry tubs that you could turn into worm farms. I suspect that there are enterprising people out doing precisely that, and I wonder if they are being supported or vilified in their attempts to given an object a second life. Like on council kerbside collection day - it sort of threatens the fabric of society when you decide that something is worthless, but someone else comes along and apparently profits from your rubbish.

    I also noted the media interview with one agency - I think it was Lifeline but I could be wrong - who are being overwhelmed by donations of "stuff" that people are giving in the hope that it will go to the flood victims. What actually happens is that they sort through the "stuff" and anything that isn't saleable goes into landfill, and the rest is sold at Lifeline shops, to generate cash which is then used for the works that Lifeline does. The media person was expressing a hint of disapproval at this process because it's not what people imagine is going to happen with their "stuff" when they donate it. The Lifeline person was saying basically "please don't send us "stuff" now, cash would be better. We won't be able to sell all this stuff now, and once we run out of room on the shelves we'll have to throw the rest of the donations away."

    Anyway - these are just some of the things I am thinking to myself while watching the TV these days!

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    I was in Graceville helping people move muddy "stuff" out of their houses and until you do that you don't realise how much stuff you acumulate.
    One of the ladies we helped had 15 bath mats with 1 bathroom !!!!!!
    I saw lots of good stuff being thrown out just because the people didn't have the energy to clean them. Perfectly good items that would be able to be used for many years to come.
    I think it was like a cleansing experience so they could go and buy more stuff.
    There were also alot of things on the footpath that I would have loved to take home, an antique hand powered cement mixer comes to mind, but the overall feeling in the flood areas was that it just didn't feel appropriate to sift through the rubbish and take it home. You would have been seen as a looter. Also asking the owner who has just lost everything if you could take some of their stuff just didn't feel right. I think this was because people were taking salvageable stuff away and cleaning it to return to the owner rather than keeping it for themselves.
    On a council clean-up day people are throwing things away that they don't want, when yo uare flooded you have little choice in what gets thrown out.
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    I'm bumping the Stuff thread so I can tell a story. I was listening to the local ABC radio early yesterday and they were talking about a couple who had thought that the safest place to keep the woman's jewellery collection was in a number of green rubbish bags in various places around the house. You know - thieves wouldn't think to look in a rubbish bag sort of theory. (Just like they don't look for the key under the rock by the front door either.....) Some family members decided to surprise them by spring cleaning the house for them and.... well you guessed it.

    They have estimated that $50,000 worth of jewellery is now gracing the Caloundra land fill.

    I sat there thinking to myself - who in the world actually HAS $50,000 worth of jewellery anyway. Why do you need $50,000 worth of jewellery? I bet they reckon they can't afford to put in a few rain water tanks either.
    Secondly, why if you have something precious do you hide it away and never enjoy it?

    So having $50,000 worth of jewellery doesn't make you happy. Diamonds are not a girls best friend. I'd rather have a ute full of manure and a few bales of lucerne as a love offering!

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    lol Eco
    It does sound a little like an insurance thing to me though
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    I'm with you on this one Eco. Who would have that much jewellry and be so scared of losing it as to hide it away like that? Maybe the insurance costs too much? I would rather some fencing, star pickets, plants, more tanks etc. I read the other day that in the states, people were being warned not to wear their gold jewellry as there were people just running past and grabbing necklaces and bracelets etc instead of the old bag snatch routine. Nobody's got any money anymore so bags are outa favour and the price for gold is so good at the moment, so that is what the thieves are targetting. Pays to have no jewellry or money doesn't it?

    My daughter went and helped in the clean up with the floods before I knew what she was doing. I was concerned about asbestos and such. Anyway she said, "mum, a lot of people were just grabbing stuff off the sidewalks and not helping".

    I love the 'stuff' I can reuse. Garage sale queen I am.

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    I recommend you to not watch too much Tv
    Hope that helps.

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