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    Smile Christmas makes me feel like selling paradise....a whinge.

    Christmas makes me feel like selling paradise...because christmas time is when my kids run out of excuses not to visit;
    so they do and it is always the same...all touch and no contact.

    They are young adults, profesionals and tradesmen....they are "successful" (retch)....and they just don't get it.
    They never get it.


    When they visit me, they visit 135 ac of permaculture, slow food, transition movement, alternative lifestyle with cutting edge landcare, edible landscape, custom planted forests, oak groves and sacred sites.........throw in; own power, water and food supplies; dams, ponds and animals...cattle, sheep, poultry..........(it is a passion which has been going on for a while).

    and they 'see' it all in 5 mins.,,,not a question,,,barely a comment,,,,and what comments there are, are just stupid.

    They see nothing!!!!.......we are a fractured family........
    with the 'fracture' clearly visible at the point where the consumptive little bastards, fully connected to the money system, just will not role over to green sensibilities.

    Which brings me to the point of selling paradise and spending the quid,,,$400k would maybe be enough to set up in Paraguay, si or Eucador......
    nah, too far away; I want to see the ocean claim my kids houses.

    merry christmas
    regards,
    kimbo
    "tantum pro silva"

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    ah well kimbo,

    at least they visit hey? or is because of all that good fresh slow food on the table chuckle? we had the same when we lived on acreage, why are you livng out here it is too far away, no they didn't want to know about growing all our own food enough for them and room for them to live, and fresh air, or the eco' tourism low key potential, nut just how far is macca's!! away?

    yep our kids are in the fast lane, they don't see the success of mum and dads lifestyle changes.

    season greetings

    len
    With peace and brightest of blessings,

    len
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    "Be Content With What You Have And
    May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In
    A World That You May Not Understand."

    in transit to very northern sunshine coast area

    http://www.lensgarden.com.au

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    Don't let it get you down Kimbo. My own son still lives with us and he's great (IMHO), but I also inherited three adult stepchildren. One never visits at all, one is a pain in the butt and criticises everything, and one really wants to do the same as us but can't get himself together to actually do anything about it. You just have to be there for them for when they're ready. And if they never are, well, I managed to inherit nine grandchildren too, so maybe one of those.

    Have a wonderful Christmas everyone!

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    excuse me for sounding smug but luckily we never had any children !!!

    we do have several kids and even a grandkid ........all 4 legged and all appreciate our efforts at growing fodder and have no desire to ever leave home

    Merry Xmas
    Only after the last tree has been cut down,
    only after the last river has been poisoned,
    only after the last fish has been caught.
    only then will you find
    that money cannot be eaten"
    Chief Seattle

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    Ahhh Kimbo

    I feel it too. I am sick up and fed of my kids lately. We have 7 between us all with partners and 10 grandkids and a couple more coming soon. What is it with them? Is it just a sign of the times? We are sitting here without any of them today (although I have spoken to one on the phone and visited one that lives close by for an hour or so this morning) and it is all so sad.

    I remember looking forward to christmas and just loved hanging out with everyone. It is gone I think.

    I feel like if you aren't a millionaire ($$$ wise) and able to give them very expensive gifts then we are just not worth while to them. Maybe a little harsh, but I'm feeling sad today and can't wait for it all to just finish and I want to start the new year.

    You have done an amazing thing with your place and my hat is definately off to you. Congratulations.

    I wish you joy and love.

    Kerri

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    Smile thanks for the vibe guys,,,you lot are my mates...happy holiday

    Quote Originally Posted by kerrip View Post
    Ahhh Kimbo

    I feel it too. I am sick up and fed of my kids lately. We have 7 between us all with partners and 10 grandkids and a couple more coming soon. What is it with them? Is it just a sign of the times? We are sitting here without any of them today (although I have spoken to one on the phone and visited one that lives close by for an hour or so this morning) and it is all so sad.

    I remember looking forward to christmas and just loved hanging out with everyone. It is gone I think.

    I feel like if you aren't a millionaire ($$$ wise) and able to give them very expensive gifts then we are just not worth while to them. Maybe a little harsh, but I'm feeling sad today and can't wait for it all to just finish and I want to start the new year.

    You have done an amazing thing with your place and my hat is definately off to you. Congratulations.

    I wish you joy and love.

    Kerri
    hello,
    you definitely have my vibe pegged,,,,,,,.....i'm sorry your feeling down,,,but cheer up cause we are here, and you gotta.....i've got to go milk the bloody cow coz the wife and 6 yo couldn't organize a puddle in a storm...time me
    ....................................all good, the job was done by the time i got there....
    maybe there is a god....i jest....(which means i'm feeling a bit better myself).

    i appreciate your congrats. on my place....i dig it even more coming from a peer.

    being a recluse, i am disadvantaged by my reliance on family ( namely 4 adult sons, raised by one single parent, me, since the youngest was 5 months old.) ....

    have you ever experienced being surrounded by sheer spectacle; be it beauty, or grandeur , or magnificence... and the entire thing is 'reduced' by the fact that yours are the only eyes seeing it?
    ....and to have some other eyes to share it with would magnify it all, even to you.


    i'm not talking a city of eyes to strip the heart and magic from it; but to share it with the eyes that are important to you.
    and maybe from that sharing of the spectacle with other eyes, sharing of the vibe with other hearts.......

    'wake up and smell the desert kim........you sound like a frgn christmas card'

    ....sorry christmas spirit messin with my head.....time for a chrissy cone.

    cheers, happy new year (oops)....i really feel a sense of impending doom for 2010.....as a number, it sucks....a 3 is not a 9, or an 11 which is a 2 anyway.......still greatfull it is not yet a 5 (2012)....and the good news about 2010 is that after it comes 2011...a 4....er, hey that is not good either.....maybe the frgn world will end 2012???!....
    so i only have to do 2 ,more of these christmass's anyway

    regards,
    kimbo
    "tantum pro silva"

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    so i only have to do 2 ,more of these christmass's anyway
    That's cheered me up now, thanks :-)


    There are lots of people who want the connection with the land but don't have the funds or other resources. And there's the people with the land who don't have enough people. It's the one big challenge that remains largely un-addressed in the communities of those who see what is coming, and it transcends immediate family. Maybe it doesn't matter, because when the shit hits the fan we will have to get together anyway if we want to survive. Would be nice if got some practice in though.

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    Sometimes the blindest people have perfect vision... (and Diplomas).

    Your property sounds like heaven, kimbo...

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    Default merry christmas milifstyle

    Quote Originally Posted by milifestyle View Post
    Sometimes the blindest people have perfect vision... (and Diplomas).

    Your property sounds like heaven, kimbo...
    er eric, sorry man...i wasn't ribbing the blind (unsited people)
    but hopefully was channelling my angst towards my kids who can see, and don't.
    er eric
    does this mean that you are 'un-sited', how do you read posts, and moderate ?...never mind, you do and that is the main thing.

    ps i've been watching your work in a now locked post,,,,mate, all these deep breaths have got to be healthy. 'chortle'
    cheers,
    Kimbo
    "tantum pro silva"

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimbo.parker View Post
    er eric, sorry man...i wasn't ribbing the blind (unsited people)
    but hopefully was channelling my angst towards my kids who can see, and don't.
    er eric
    does this mean that you are 'un-sited', how do you read posts, and moderate ?...never mind, you do and that is the main thing.

    ps i've been watching your work in a now locked post,,,,mate, all these deep breaths have got to be healthy. 'chortle'
    cheers,
    Kimbo
    lol... I was referring to your kids not really SEEING or being interested in your property...

    Anyway... hope your christmas was full and entertaining

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