the great bill mollison copyright swindle

[janahn]

despite one director of the permaculture institute being aware that they had lost the common right to claim copyright to the word PERMACULTURE, may I pronounce today, upon this forum, that all prior claims, regarding ownership of the word PERMACULTURE, especially during the last 10 or maybe more years in particular, may be ignored.

permaculture has been set free, all previous claims made on tagari.com regarding who may use the word PC, should be ignored.

Leo

http://www.janahn.com.au

[janahn]

watch this post it may be deleted

[pebble]

OWNERSHIP OF THE COPYRIGHT
OF THE WORD “PERMACULTURE” (P.C.)

The word Permaculture was defined and copyrighted by publications in the Organic
Gardening and Farming Society’s newsletter in Hobart, Tasmania in 1975. The word
itself was coined by Bill Mollison, as no succinct word or publication had previously been
applied to whole system design. In 1978, the publication of Permaculture One estab-
lished the first book on conscious design of whole landscapes, and again established the
word Permaculture as unique. Ownership of the copyright is equally invested (by Bill
Mollison) in the Permaculture Institutes and its graduates from a Certificated Permacul-
ture Course. It cannot be given away except to graduates.

Copyright was deliberately sought, and the unique name coined so that this system
of education could not be pre-empted by existing institutions or government agencies, but
belongs to certificated individuals and Permaculture Institutes (as corporate bodies). The
intention of the copyright is to keep the educational area (with its considerable goodwill)
to those who know what a Permaculture course consists of! No person who is not a course
graduate can use this name for profit; all normal uses for purposes of reviews, discussion,
news items and so on is permitted, and graduates (but only graduates) of courses can
register for-profit enterprises or corporations using this name.

Likewise, Permaculture graduates who are appointed to or who belong to other
teaching institutions can teach courses; that institution itself, however, cannot use the
name for profit, or for raising funds, if its directors are not graduates, nor should any such
directors be appointed to Permaculture Institutes or their boards.

Non profit Permaculture associations freely use the name, as can any association of
people with a common interest in Permaculture, but not for paid or certificated courses.
Where non certificated teachers offer paid courses on Permaculture they have been
successfully challenged by several graduates, but also invited to attend a full course and to
later continue their teaching. Such pirate courses have been found to be more akin to
organic farming or ‘new age’ mysticism than applied design, so that the necessity for
copyright has been validated. This publication also clearly delineates the controls we
must demand for higher degrees, and gives additional facilitation to our graduates by the
establishment of a College of Graduates; in effect, a professional association of
experienced people.

2003

http://www.tagari.com/download.php?file ... arBook.pdf

[janahn]

well i think lisa and bill have withdrawn this claim, co-incidentally when i suggested i would refer the matter to the ACCC.

www.janahn.com.au

[pebble]

What's the ACCC?

Either the word is copyrighted or it isn't. It would be good to know which (and given the vagueness of this thread and some of the heavy handed language, some evidence would be useful).

[janahn]

well what i want to know, and i will repeat this item in infinitum, until she explains herself, why she thinks she has the right to stop others from using the word PC>

http://www.janahn.com.au

[janahn]

ACCC is the Australian Consumer and Competition Commission.

she is ......according to.......
http://www.janahn.com.au

[pebble]

I thought the reasons for copyrighting the word are explained very well in the above piece by Bill Mollison. The only 'right' to that is if the Australian government agrees. You say they haven't. I'd like to know if that is true.

she is Sindhu Lawton according to lisa mollison

That sentence doesn't make any sense.

why she thinks she has the right to stop others from using the word PC

They're not stopping 'others' from using the word. They're stopping some people from using the word to make a profit if they haven't done a recognised PDC. Everyone else has fair use of the word. Seems like a good idea to me.

Was it you who was waxing lyrical recently about accurate use of language?

[newcroft]

You might want to explain yourself, because I'm just not getting what you are on about;

First, you accused Bill of conducting a 'Swindle' in the title. Why?

Second, you said the use of the word 'permaculture' has been set free. Huh? Who by?

Third, Bill sought copyright for PDC grads (thanks Pebble), but anyone can use the word in normal use. What type of use are you concerned about?

Fourth, When did Bill and Lisa withdraw a claim? And what claim do you mean? And you think it had anything to do with you?

Fifth, You said they withdrew a claim, but then state that Lisa is not letting people use the word Permaculture. What's that all about?

Sixth, What's Sindhu Lawton got to do with all of this?

You seem to be making some very strong accusations here. You've accused someone of a 'swindle', and some courts may view this as slander.

[janahn]

Bingo Pebble, and the only conclusion I can draw from information ....left on my mobile message bank, all things considered, that at that particular point in time, when I owed money to ....... that she was involved in an act of fraud with ........ I have sought clarification with ....and she has refused to co-operate. I will apologise this is wrong.

leo