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    Hi

    It gets too hot in my kitchen in the summer time, and I'm trying to create some shade to cool it down. There is a shade cloth just over the patio, directly out the kitchen, and i was thinking of growing something up along the poles and over the rafters. A quick google search suggests something like scarlet runner beans. Anyone grow them? We're only renting (and maybe only through this Austral summer) so I can't change things around too drastically, and need something that grows FAST. Any suggestions?

    Thanks all

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    Not sure where you are doodlebug but there is nothing faster than a choko.
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    Great question!

    Various ornamental vines come to mind but they do have limited uses.
    Moon flower (fast)pretty stunning especially at night.(Ipomena noctiflora) (poison and hallucinogenic?)- other Ipomenas too
    Honeysuckle (fragrance, medicinal used for skin problems)
    Climbing hydrangea (medicinal)
    jasmines (fragrance & some like Carolina medicinal) moderatly fast)
    Sweet pea (fragrant annual up to 15 feet) (fast)

    More useful
    Slow (2-3 years) but quite a feature and semi-deciduous is the Manzano Chilli vine. very hot, apple sized chillies
    Passionfruit (the native Oz one is very prolific and fast)
    Grape (even the ornamental the lemon flavoured leaves can be used- dolmardies) Deciduous -which lets in winter sun
    Gourds (luffa? and others)
    Kiwi fruit
    Climing Nasturtium (?) (fast if fed
    Berries- blackberry?
    Malabar Spinach, green/red (Basella rubra)
    (cheap seeds here http://www.tradewindsfruitstore.com/ser ... Categories )
    lab lab beans (edible flowers, nitrogen fixer? v. fast)
    (i have a few seeds)

    Veggies
    I don't know what beans and peas are fast & best for shading; but i am sure someone here will know.

    Is an espaliered fruit tree a possibility?

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    What use are chokos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michaelangelica
    purple pear
    What use are chokos?
    Some debate their merits strenuously Michaelangelica but I only know that they make the best apple pies and pickles.
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    Here is another nutter who agrees with you
    Chokoe

    By Lynne Mullins
    January 31, 2006

    Chokoes' distinctive but bland flavour combines well with spicy ingredients. Photo: Kate Geraghty

    Don't rip out that vine just yet. Maligned chokoes can be magic. (?)

    Steamed wedges served with a knob of butter and plenty of cracked black pepper is the only way to eat choko, according to my father. He remembers when choko vines grew rampantly over everyone's backyard shed spilling into neighbouring vegetable gardens.

    Chokoes belong to the cucurbit family along with pumpkin, gourds and zucchini. The tough green skin has deep creases (and often has soft prickles, depending on the variety). The single nutty tasting seed is edible, particularly when the fruit is young, as are the tender shoots and leaves which are popular in Asian cuisines.

    Native to central America, they appear in our markets year round, although supplies can be erratic. Chokoes can be roasted fried, pickled, steamed or mashed and the distinctive but rather bland flavour combines well with spicy ingredients.

    Select Choose the smallest shiny young chokoes without any brown spots. If they are all large, the ones with the softest spines will be most tender.

    Store Chokoes keep well in the fridge crisper but if stored for too long they will start to sprout from the seed and become stringy. When cut they exude a slippery sap that is hard to wash off your hands and can cause itchiness, so use rubber gloves to peel them or cut off each end and immerse in cold water for a few minutes before peeling.

    Cook Melt a knob of butter in a frying pan over moderate heat. Toss a couple of peeled sliced chokoes in the pan with salt and cracked black pepper. Cook until just tender then add zest and juice of a lime and chopped flat-leaf parsley. Stir and serve with grilled fish.

    Chop peeled chokoes and stir-fry with sliced carrots, snowpeas, baby corn and a splash of soy and oyster sauce. Or use chokoes in place of apples in a favourite recipe.

    Braise choko wedges in chicken stock until tender then sprinkle with grated parmesan and place under a hot grill until golden.

    Serve with grilled lamb chops.

    Saute peeled choko and potato chunks in a little olive oil with chopped bacon until vegetables are tender and bacon is crisp.

    Serve scattered with chopped oregano.

    Roasted chokoes with free range chicken . . . .
    http://www.smh.com.au/news/recipes/chok ... 26566.html
    Personally i think they tasteless are well named after the medieval torture device.

    the rectal pear awaited passive male homosexuals, and the vaginal one women guilty of sexual union with Satan or his familiars. Pictured above is a version of the choke pear called the “Pear of Anguish”.
    http://listverse.com/2009/07/20/top-10-gruesome-medieval-torture-devices/

    BTW Did you see the HSC comprehension question of a few years ago on chockos? It was an article about the chocko growing on the out-door dunny--all the rage when I was a kid.
    So few students knew what a Chocko was, the examiners had to abandon the question during marking.
    Obviously migrants and "boat people" have better taste?

    Any thoughts on the best/fastest/most-prolific pea/bean to grow?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michaelangelica
    Any thoughts on the best/fastest/most-prolific pea/bean to grow?
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    For mine it would be the poor man bean aka stirfry bean or 7 year bean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by purplepear
    Quote Originally Posted by Michaelangelica
    Any thoughts on the best/fastest/most-prolific pea/bean to grow?
    For mine it would be the poor man bean aka stirfry bean or 7 year bean.
    Arh. . . is that what I call Dolichos Lab lab beans? Someone told me the pods were not edible!
    Bean - Poor Man's
    RRP:
    Price:
    $3.00 (including tax)
    Poor Man's Bean (Dolichos lablab)

    Syn.Lab Lab Bean, Hyacinth Bean

    Vigorous creeping vine that’s excellent as a ground cover or
    legume cover crop. The beautiful white and pink flowers with
    attractive purple green foliage form handsome young pods which
    are edible when cooked. Sow after frost.
    http://www.cornucopiaseeds.com.au/produ ... n%27s.html
    HYACINTH BEAN

    Also called Bonavista, Seven Year Bean, Garden Lablab and Poor Man’s Bean, it is related to the green manure and fodder crop of lablab but this garden variety gives a wider bean and has no tough parchment inside the pod.
    The dry seed comes in black, dark and reddish brown with a long white hilum, or strip, on the side.
    Plant Names
    Botanical Family:
    LEGUMINOSAE
    Common Name:
    HYACINTH BEAN
    Genus:
    ??
    Species:
    ??
    About the Name:

    dolichos is Greek for "long"; lablab is the Egyptian name adopted by Linnaeus; and niger stems from the Latin for "black", referring to the colour of the seed.
    Origins:
    Egypt. Now found in many tropical parts of the world.
    Plant Description:
    Also called Bonavista, Seven Year Bean, Garden Lablab and Poor Man’s Bean, it is related to the green manure and fodder crop of lablab but this garden variety gives a wider bean and has no tough parchment inside the pod. The dry seed comes in black, dark and reddish brown with a long white hilum, or strip, on the side.
    Variety Notes:
    There have been a dozen types of hyacinth bean sent to Seed Savers mostly from Queensland and nearly all have black seeds.
    One from Victoria has brown seeds, and two tropical types have dark brown seeds speckled with red.

    In Malaysia there is a variety called Kachang Kara Puteh which has pale yellow pods, white flowers and white seeds. The colours of the flowers vary from white through pink to purple, and the pods vary in colour too.
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    Cultivation:
    Hyacinth bean needs a very strong trellis or a fence on which to grow. In the first year it will produce mostly leaves, but from the second year, it will flower heavily and bear pods for several months. The vine will last for about five years in warm climates.
    Its leaves die back in the cool of winter. It can grow in cooler areas but has a shorter life span. It grows even in Mudgee, NSW where it is treated as an annual because of the frost. Seed Savers' subscribers grow it in Perth, Adelaide and in many parts of Queensland.
    In Brisbane the plant has been seen growing wild, sharing a fence with bitter gourds and the Madagascar (lima) bean, which is also perennial.
    This legume tolerates drought and poor soils. It is, we believe, uncommon in New Zealand, but it would be worthwhile finding local sources and multiplying them.
    Seed saving notes:

    The large vine gives clusters of perfect (both male and female parts in one), insect-pollinated flowers looking like a hyacinth.
    Each flower produces a pod containing four to six beans. The plant does not seem to lose production when pods are left to go to seed, as happens with some green beans.
    In wet weather it is worth harvesting the dried beans as soon as the pods have shrivelled and look light brown. Left on the bush for too long in rainy weather, the bean seeds will turn mouldy. If they are picked at the right time, the beans will not need any further drying and can be stored in a clean moisture-less jar on a dry day.
    In arid regions, beans are stored in cotton bags and are expected to last for a number of years if they are not eaten by weevils. To kill weevils, the beans should be frozen in a jar for forty eight hours after they are completely dried .
    Seed storage:
    http://www.seedsavers.net/handbook/hyacinth-bean
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michaelangelica
    Arh. . . is that what I call Dolichos Lab lab beans? Someone told me the pods were not edible!
    They are not good raw but cooked they are great and replace snowpeas in the stirfry in summer. Very nice purple flower too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by purplepear
    Quote Originally Posted by Michaelangelica
    Arh. . . is that what I call Dolichos Lab lab beans? Someone told me the pods were not edible!
    They are not good raw but cooked they are great and replace snowpeas in the stirfry in summer. Very nice purple flower too.
    Thankyou!
    I have planted my seed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michaelangelica
    Thankyou!
    I have planted my seed
    As did I,
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