There's been a few comments about Monsanto not telling us what surfactants they use. I'd like to check that we all understand that glyphosate is the "active" chemical, and that it is supplied in many formulations by many different companies. When we say "Monsanto won't tell us what they are", are we clear that Monsanto may not even KNOW - if the product in question is not a Monsanto product (the patent on glyphosate has expired) then Monsanto themselves may have no idea and no control of the actual formulation.
Personally I use:
Roundup PowerMax (Monsanto via Nufarm)
Ripper 480 (Dow)
These are all glyphosate products, and that's before things like Arsenal (NuFarm) which contains glyphosate amongst other things (imazapyr in this case).
There are many others on the market from other companies as well.
Much of the actual active glyphosate is no longer manufactured by Monsanto. To expect them to "tell us" how they make their own formulations better than anyone else's is a tad unrealistic, because if people knew how to take raw (cheap) glyphosate and make it work like Powermax, they probably would. In the same way that the guy who wins all the vegetable prizes at the town show every year is unlikely to "tell us" everything he does to make them that good!
And I thought it was those spikey spores that caused rain..... oh my god, Monsanto tried to knock the spikes off them as well, didn't they? Perhaps Monsanto are actually trying to stop the rain.... or was that Mr Burns blotting out the sun? No, no, it all makes sense. GM products that are Roundup Ready, stop the rainfall and then sell GM "drought tolerant" products. I wondered where Monsanto's angle was with drought tolerant GM, because they make no profit from selling "drought", but.....if....they....can...create....drought.... they would be the only seed supplier in the world....... it all makes sense......
I wonder when that theory will become "truth".... :wink: