Chilli has proven to grow well in shaded areas.
Chilli has proven to grow well in shaded areas.
Wouldnt mind getting a hold of some Black Cardamom too Amomum subulatumOriginally Posted by aroideana
Updated list:
- ginger family (Zingiberaceae Family; ginger, galangal, cardomom, kencur, fingerroot, etcl.) - edible root, used fresh or as spice
- mushrooms - many edible kinds
- pineapple - edible fruit
- coffee - fruit contain "beans" used for making coffee
- tea (Camellia sinensis) - young leaves used for tea
- alpine strawberries (subtropical only) - edible fruit
- comfrey - young leaves technically edible, but mostly used as medicinal plant and nutrient accumulator
- ferns (e.g. Diplazium esculentum) - mostly ornamental value, but young shoots (fiddleheads) are edible
- sweet potato - edible roots, leaves, and shoots, but primarily grown for tubers and as ornamental vine
- pandanus (Pandanus amaryllifolius) - edible leaves used for flavoring
- wild betel (Piper sarmentosum) - edible peppery flavored leaves
- cacao (tropical only) - edible beans used to make chocolate
- sweet leaf aka katuk (Sauropus androgynus) - fast-growing edible shoots and leaves eaten raw or cooked
- pinto peanut - edible yellow flowers, but mostly grown as legume perennial groundcover
- palms (e.g. Linospadix monostachya, Chamaedorea tepejilote) - many different species, but some can tolerate shade and have edible fruits, flowers and/or hearts
- Monster Fruit (Monstera deliciosa) - edible fruit
- Amorphophallus genus - several species have edible tubers
- Kava (Piper methysticum) - edible root used as stimulant
- Arrowroot (Maranta arundinacea) - edible tubers processed for starch
- Xanthosoma & Alocasia genuses (various taros) - edible roots/rhizomes
Hello Adam, believe it or not my Queensland Arrowroot brought to Nambour by my Kanak ancestors in the very early 1900's is Canna edulis and does grow and produce ample root material in full shade as it has done here for the past 5 or 6 generations or 100 or so plus years. Still in the same spot under the weeping willow where the kanak camp was in the 1910's .The European settlers here could not grow wheat or barley or rice. My Grandma grew arrowroot, taro, turmeric, cardamon, galangal, and true ginger at her home farm at Perwillowen from 1900 to the late 70's . Being the first European woman born on the North Coast she spent most of her youth tom boying with the local natives and the South Sea Island Natives. Tapioca from the sago palm would not grow here, the Kanaks were most dissappointed. My childhood memories are filled with the melodies of the Eggmoless, Hart, Chillie and Demal families along the creek where the Nambour RSL and Coles New World stores are now. Eating smoked catfish from Petrie Creek there when my dad built the concrete bridge across the Creek , my job at 12 was to keep ready rolled smokes up to the 15 or so men and to catch fish and cook it for their lunch. Another plant underestimated is the ckoko vine. steamed tendrils are as good as veges get. The choko is a much maligned food source.
The pawpaw tree (Asimina triloba), an native of the south and east cost of america is one of the few trees to produce fruit in full shade. I don't know if it is available on your side of the planet, but it is then it is worth trying. It is in the Banana Family and originates in central america, I think, but now it grows in subtropical and temperate areas.
Bananas can take partial shade, but I don't know about full shade.
camellia bushes or shrubs can grow and bloom in heavy shade. I have one planted against the north wall of my house, northern hemisphere, and it does well. The seeds can be used to make a oil, or collected and sold to those who do. It blooms late winter, which in my subtropical local can be December to February.
Mulberries produce, though at a reduced rate in heavy shade.
hydrangea, though not edible produced beautiful blooms on the north side of my home too.
Curramore - I hope you are writing this all down in a book somewhere. It would be sad to lose the stories if you don't pass them on. Coles has now gone from Petrie Creek (there's not one in Nambour at present, though there are plans to put one at the old mill site). I don't know that I'd be prepared to eat any fish out of the Creek anymore - it's more an open drain now...
I have heard that there used to be a sacred birthing space somewhere on the edge of Petrie Creek where the Gubbi Gubbi women would go when it was time to give birth. I'd love to know where it was.
Curramore - I stand corrected on the arrowroot. I will add it after all.
Garnede - A. triloba can indeed take full shade but it can't grow in tropics/subtropics as far as I know. It need a cold period to go dormant I think, like apples and pears. It does not originate in Central America and is not in the banana family (you are thinking of papaya). So it won't grow anywhere where it doesn't freeze in the winter. Not sure about how much shade bananas can tolerate. I have always heard they need some light. Anyone growing bananas in complete shade? I have a camellia species on the list by the way (Camellia sinensis, which is the tea plant). I don't know of other edible camellias. Mulberries are a good call, I think you are right I have seen them growing in full shade and living, barely producing any berries, but they can grow at least.
Updated list:
- ginger family (Zingiberaceae Family; ginger, galangal, cardomom, kencur, fingerroot, etcl.) - edible root, used fresh or as spice
- mushrooms - many edible kinds
- pineapple - edible fruit
- coffee - fruit contain "beans" used for making coffee
- tea (Camellia sinensis) - young leaves used for tea
- alpine strawberries (subtropical only) - edible fruit
- comfrey - young leaves technically edible, but mostly used as medicinal plant and nutrient accumulator
- ferns (e.g. Diplazium esculentum) - mostly ornamental value, but young shoots (fiddleheads) are edible
- sweet potato - edible roots, leaves, and shoots, but primarily grown for tubers and as ornamental vine
- pandanus (Pandanus amaryllifolius) - edible leaves used for flavoring
- wild betel (Piper sarmentosum) - edible peppery flavored leaves
- cacao (tropical only) - edible beans used to make chocolate
- sweet leaf aka katuk (Sauropus androgynus) - fast-growing edible shoots and leaves eaten raw or cooked
- pinto peanut - edible yellow flowers, but mostly grown as legume perennial groundcover
- palms (e.g. Linospadix monostachya, Chamaedorea tepejilote) - many different species, but some can tolerate shade and have edible fruits, flowers and/or hearts
- Monster Fruit (Monstera deliciosa) - edible fruit
- Amorphophallus genus - several species have edible tubers
- Kava (Piper methysticum) - edible root used as stimulant
- Arrowroot (Maranta arundinacea) - edible tubers processed for starch
- "Queensland" Arrowroot (Canna edulis aka Canna indica) - edible tubers
- Xanthosoma & Alocasia genuses (various taros) - edible roots/rhizomes
- Mulberry (Morus genus) - edible berries and leaves (leaves make a great tea)
Thanks Adam good work
There is a difference between plants that will grow in the dense shade of a building and those plants used to forest under-story shade. But probably the only way to test that is to grow the plant
Have a look too at these old threads too
http://forums.permaculture.org.au/sh...ighlight=shade
http://forums.permaculture.org.au/sh...ighlight=shade
http://forums.permaculture.org.au/sh...ighlight=shade
http://forums.permaculture.org.au/sh...ighlight=shade
http://forums.permaculture.org.au/sh...ighlight=shade
http://forums.permaculture.org.au/sh...ighlight=shade
http://forums.permaculture.org.au/sh...ighlight=shade
http://forums.permaculture.org.au/sh...ighlight=shade
Last edited by Michaelangelica; 13-04-2012 at 12:00 AM.
Adam, A. triloba can and and does live in the sub tropics. I live in a sub tropical area and both wild and improved pawpaws thrive here. It may not thrive in tropical areas, but it does just fine in subtropical areas.
I guess it depends on how you define subtropics really. Personally, I wouldn't consider Georgia to be subtropical, although I could see how one could argue that it is. It's certainly on the cusp. But it does drop below freezing in Georgia from time to time in the winter, does it not? So I would expect A. triloba would indeed do well there. The question still remains as to whether it can live somewhere where it never drops below freezing. The list I am creating is more geared towards places that basically never see frost.
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