Gluten intollerance or Roundup?

[Michaelangelica]

i'm gluten and all grain resistant,.

gluten intolerance exists but not recognised in main stream medicine.



len

That is no longer the case; although mainstream medicine has enormous trouble diagnosing coeliac disease.
And, apart from a strict diet there is no effective treatment

[S.O.P]

http://www.abc.net.au/science/articl...19/3194662.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/3269844.htm

They weren't the articles, but very good nonetheless. Human inoculation seems to be one direction we need to go.

[frosty]

I am gluten intolerant but I only eat Organic .......... its decades since i would have eatn anything that would contain roundup

[gardenlen]

miacael,

you are somewhat selective in quoting me but that is nothing new around the traps.

i have in the past 12 years sat across from GP's and all sorts of specialist, and they may recognise the word but they do not want to know about the symptoms because there is no kick back money to be made selling chemical fixes, there is no fix. their best stab was to call some stuff low GI that is not the answer low GI or note once intolerant you get the same reading after eating those grains. seeing an indoctrinate specialist at present he just brushed coeliac aside when i mentioned it. and once affected a strict diet of no grains and little carbohydrates does little.

and 'try reason', GMO is self regulated and supported by the gov', so there will never be any independent testing done, that's not part of the agenda.

len

[Michaelangelica]

miacael,

you are somewhat selective in quoting me but that is nothing new around the traps.

i have in the past 12 years sat across from GP's and all sorts of specialist, and they may recognise the word but they do not want to know about the symptoms because there is no kick back money to be made selling chemical fixes, there is no fix. their best stab was to call some stuff low GI that is not the answer low GI or note once intolerant you get the same reading after eating those grains. seeing an indoctrinate specialist at present he just brushed coeliac aside when i mentioned it. and once affected a strict diet of no grains and little carbohydrates does little.

and 'try reason', GMO is self regulated and supported by the gov', so there will never be any independent testing done, that's not part of the agenda.

len

Yes well most GPs are very limited Most could not diagnose the Black Plague without a Pathology test. The problem with gluten and grain sensitivity is that it is almost impossible to diagnose although new genetic tests are becoming available in the USA. However is is a well recognised medical problem, with as I said up to 6% incidence in the population (I suspect more) you just need to find an intelligent medical practitioner, not an easy task. probably someone a bit alterntive or a specialist gastroenterologist
i have just written some stuff about it (I too have suffered all my life in the end treating myself) This is an extract from something I recently wrote about it:-

There is 5-10 fold increased risk of its coexistence with other autoimmune diseases. Coeliac Disease patients suffer from adverse effects that can be related to specific gluten peptide sequences that trigger a sequence of immune related reactions leading to damage of the intestine and related malabsorption symptoms. Common features of “silent celiac disease” include
(a) behavioral disturbances, such as irritability and impaired school performance;
(b) impaired physical itness and chronic fatigue;
(c)iron deiciency with or without anemia; and
(d) reduced bone mineral density.
Nutrient deficiencies are common. Vitamin B supplementation ( B12, folate, and B6), Zinc and copper may result in improvements in wellbeing specifically, reduced anxiety and depression

i supect that once on adiet you become even more sensitive to grains and even the tiniest bit (micrograms) can give you symptoms i suspect much IBS is down to it
i also supect that mast cell inhibitors could help get you out of trouble while travelling or eating something suspect. Sodium cromogate is the classic, taken orally before ameal (now no longer available) The herb that sodium cromogate originally came from is the weed kella or Ammi visnaga There is no reseach to support my theories.

Good luck fellow traveller. It is a difficult miserable, often overlooked and under diagnosed complaint which can affect your whole outlook and feeling about life

[eco4560]

For those in Australia - if you are looking for a doctor who actually understands nutrition - try looking at ACNEM for their list of practitioners. That's the Australasian College of Environmental and Nutritional Medicine. Graeme Sait (Nutritech, soil guru) reckons he refers people to ACNEM docs all the time and hasn't found a bad one yet.

[gardenlen]

might be a fellow traveler, but my outlook and feelings on life are sound just how i feel about medico's and their scientific mates all pedaling snake oil, and never going the whole hog

len

[Michaelangelica]

Just came across this:-
Vitamin D and Celiac disease
Vitamin D levels
People with Celiac disease often have low vitamin D blood levels. This possibly occurs because of poor vitamin D absorption from food and supplements. Extra vitamin D is generally required for optimal health.
http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/healt...eliac-disease/

[Pakanohida]

Just came across this:-
Vitamin D and Celiac disease
Vitamin D levels
People with Celiac disease often have low vitamin D blood levels. This possibly occurs because of poor vitamin D absorption from food and supplements. Extra vitamin D is generally required for optimal health.
http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/healt...eliac-disease/

Low amounts of vitamin D, & calcium seem to be a factor in a large amount of medical maladies, makes me wonder about those people who claim you should have your body more base then acidic. I personally wouldn't even know how to check such a thing without expensive tests.

[Michaelangelica]