Small success

[Matt_95]

When I made the switch to permaculture I initially had a few reservations from Mum and Dad so I was given the back yard (but not the lawn) and they kept the front yard. Well needless to say Dad killed off the camellias he was trying to hedge with glysophate. We don't use it anywhere now and I now have had 3 species of frog show up I have finally convinced my parents to consider a hedge that has both ornamental value but is also practical. So today I got them to take me to a nursery and we came home with 15 coffee plants and 16 rosemary bushes. I think I have converted them!! I will get pictures up sometime next week just thought I would share that with y'all I am very excited

[S.O.P]

Congrats.

What's next?

[Pakanohida]

Used Glyphosphate? Really?

Somethings you should read and show your parents:

http://forums.permaculture.org.au/sh...ancer-lawsuits

http://forums.permaculture.org.au/sh...new-to-science

http://forums.permaculture.org.au/sh...people-s-urine

Each of those 3 threads have more information about glyphosphate then Monsanto wants you to know about.

[Matt_95]

Next plan is a pond. ATM all the frogs get attracted to the pool which is chlorinated. I need an alternate water source for them so they don't die in it. I am also hoping to convert the pool to salt water as chlorine is a carcinogen and salt would be cheaper in the long run but more $$ up front. I tried convincing them to let me use natural filtration but it is "dirty"

I've read through a fair few threads on here about it. I finally convinced them about how bad it is. Well I think they only do it to humor me but at least they have stopped

[Ludi]

Consider changing your pool to a natural fresh-water pool! This would provide clean swimming for both you and the frogs.

http://www.motherearthnews.com/Do-It...ming-Pool.aspx

http://kilk.com/pond/

[Pakanohida]

Next plan is a pond. ATM all the frogs get attracted to the pool which is chlorinated. I need an alternate water source for them so they don't die in it. I am also hoping to convert the pool to salt water as chlorine is a carcinogen and salt would be cheaper in the long run but more $$ up front. I tried convincing them to let me use natural filtration but it is "dirty"

I've read through a fair few threads on here about it. I finally convinced them about how bad it is. Well I think they only do it to humor me but at least they have stopped

Sorry, didn't mean to be so preachy. I am just really freaked out by that chemical and what it is doing worldwide. I to had to explain to my father two days ago how insidious it is. Good luck with the pond.

[S.O.P]

Consider changing your pool to a natural fresh-water pool! This would provide clean swimming for both you and the frogs.

http://www.motherearthnews.com/Do-It...ming-Pool.aspx

http://kilk.com/pond/

Or even this if we are going extreme permaculture!? Convert your eco-unfriendly pool into a biologically attractive fish farm.

Sorry, didn't mean to be so preachy. I am just really freaked out by that chemical and what it is doing worldwide.

You wouldn't like where I work then. They use it like it's lolly-water full of sunshine and goodness for everyone!

[Ludi]

Or even this if we are going extreme permaculture!?

I have a wild idea for both in the same pool, though it might be kind of weird to swim with that many fish!

[S.O.P]

I have a wild idea for both in the same pool, though it might be kind of weird to swim with that many fish!

Kids might not like the biting effect that curious fish may bestow.

For example, my 4 (nearly 5) year old is still freaked out by the 'Kreepy Krawley' or 'Pool Cleaner'. I'm not sure dark depths with flashes of silver while a frog swims past will go down well.

[Matt_95]

I've already floated that idea they said it was too "dirty" it's not something they will change their mind on. Oh well, I have my fish inside