Coming soon! The America war on Iran, followed by WW 3!

[Nickolas]

Russia and China (to name a few of many countries) are very angry at the U.S. and E.U. right now because of there large involvement in the destroying of 75-percent of Libya's infrastructure and the killing of innocent libyan civilians on mass and there ever increasing roll in "liberating" the libyan people of there countries wealth, there freedom and natural resources.
But hopefully Russia and China are not going to sit by and watch the same thing happen to Iran that happend to Libya.



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[Pakanohida]

Pardon me, but the US pulled out of Libya around April of last year and handed over the 'Peace Keeping" forces to NATO. The US may have a habit of acting like a cop for the world, but this is 1 quagmire they pulled out of.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...s-2259307.html


As for the Libyan people... ..well we surfers talk a lot. Do you realize that there were beaches that Libyan people were shot on sight at because it belonged to a Prince of Quadfi? They took away the ability for fishermen to fish, farmers to farm. No one can sanely blame any one country, or any one person for what is going on over there when things have been bad in that country for over 30 years.

[TheDirtSurgeon]

As for the Libyan people... ..well we surfers talk a lot. Do you realize that there were beaches that Libyan people were shot on sight at because it belonged to a Prince of Quadfi? They took away the ability for fishermen to fish, farmers to farm. No one can sanely blame any one country, or any one person for what is going on over there when things have been bad in that country for over 30 years.

First, it's not our business. Our Founders warned us about getting entangled in foreign affairs.

Second, if you truly believe the Libya invasion was a humanitarian mission to remove an iron fist from an oppressed people yearning to breathe free, why aren't the great humanitarians in the Pentagon and Wall Street invading every country where that's a problem? How is it that our military humanitarianism only extends to places that have oil, or are good places to build pipelines?

And finally... I don't believe for one second that we don't still have military influence there, and neither should you.

[LonerMatt]

There's a lot of shit in this thread.

Boggles the mind what some people delude themselves into thinking.

America already waged war on Iran post-WW2, duh, and in 1979 Khomeni demolished the Shah, and ousted the USA from Iran.

There's no decent reason to go to war with Iran (in fact the only outcomes are negative), and, frankly, the USA doesn't have the money to afford another war and recover economically. At all.

[Grasshopper]

War with Iran has been going on since the Shah was ousted.(and obviously prior to that to set up the Shah)
Firstly by backing Iraq to fight them and economically through sanctions and via assassinations of scientists and through drones via Afghanistan.
2 things the US wont tolerate from a dictator, is not supporting Zionism and owning your own resources(especially oil try an sell it in any other currency but $US or threaten to restrict its supply and its good night), everything else is fine.
Just ask Saddam and Gadhafi and yet the Saudis can do what they like, because they keep the oil flowing and don't rock the boat on Israel

[TheDirtSurgeon]

I'm heartily in favor of rounding up a few hundred random Aussies, and replacing our government with them. I am deeply saddened by the fact that you all down there know more about what's going on here than most of us. Maybe it's the different perspective from looking at us upside down.

Come on over, lads!

[Dzionik]

Few of dictatorship and democracy ....



You have to be found on the opposite side of bombs in order to understand how it is to be "democratized"
Sorry to say my american permi brothers but you suffer from brainwashing.

[Hobbo]

Iran has told the whole world that it IS going to wipe Israel off the face of the map, the world can't expect Israel to wait for the first bombs to drop, so that leave Israel and the US with few options. Its up to the Whole World to make a firm stand against Tehran now before its too late. Trouble is Ayatollah khomeini and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are pumping each other up so much they can't back down and China, Russia and many other countries don't want the cheap oil to stop flowing or any wars right now.

[Grasshopper]

Where did you get your information from?
Was it a reliable unbiased source ?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...jun/14/post155

MEMRI (its text of the speech is available here) is headed by a former Isareli military intelligence officer and has sometimes been attacked for alleged distortion of Farsi and Arabic quotations for the benefit of Israeli foreign policy.

[LonerMatt]

War with Iran has been going on since the Shah was ousted.(and obviously prior to that to set up the Shah)

Check your definition of war, because sanctions and assassinations don't count as war, neither does spying.

The US didn't support the Iraqi war on Iran, in fact the first gulf war was in direct consequence of the 1985-1991 conflict between Iran and Iraq (specifically due to Saddam's massing of chemical weapons that were deployed in Iran, he attempted to put nerve gas in the water table and was shut down by the US during that campaign, and 250,000 tonnes of chemical gas was destroyed in the first Gulf War!). Really, the lack of historical understandings are obnoxious at best here.

2 things the US wont tolerate from a dictator, is not supporting Zionism and owning your own resources(especially oil try an sell it in any other currency but $US or threaten to restrict its supply and its good night), everything else is fine.

The exceptions to this are mind blowing. Most of the South American dictators, Panama, Cuba, etc, as well as, I don't know, China (for a start) completely demolish this idea.

Just ask Saddam and Gadhafi and yet the Saudis can do what they like, because they keep the oil flowing and don't rock the boat on Israel

1. The US's role in the downfall of Ghadafi is negligible (as has been pointed out0 compared to France and Britain, and the Libyans themselves. Let's not forget the Libyans asked for help (the US didn't decide to start protests, or plea, and I mean PLEA for international military support).

2. Saddam DID keep the oil flowing, for a long time, there's so much more to that conflict than war. The USA was in the wrong, but just not for this simplistic reason.

3. The Saudi's can do what they like because they weild a lot of diplomatic power. Want to piss off almost every Muslim in the world? Declare war on Mecca. Please, the Saudis need the US' support too, for diplomatic reasons as well. Oil is a significant part of the Saudi economy, but not as big as tourism (Haaj), and Saudi isn't even the largest exporter to the US anymore.