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22-04-2003, 09:51 PM
I am seeking information on food forests, in particular any written references that may be available. I have a task to establish a permaculture garden on the fringes of Melbourne, on a steep but relatively sheltered urban block. Any ideas on components for a food forest or even veggie guilds that may be suitable for this climate would be appreciated! Cheers!
22-04-2003, 10:23 PM
Here's two components that should work in that climate:
Capulin Cherry (http://forums.permaculture.org.au/viewtopic.php?t=35)
Brahea edulis (http://forums.permaculture.org.au/viewtopic.php?t=36)
Remember the pioneers to get things happening quickly. Tagasaste would be a good one. Later they become firewood.
Selective thinning is ongoing.
Strawberry guavas and feijoas willl provide early fruits, plant them where they will always get full sun, ie north side of the system.
good luck, have fun - Jeff
23-04-2003, 09:56 AM
where in melb snake?
cause it can vary - and don't forget the potential of microclimates.
it is late april here is castlemaine. and we've just started bring the cardamon inside at night, but have mandarins about to fruit and i have constructed a corrugated iron shelter with an earth bank heat sink behind our tamrillo tree...should see it through.
anything by Jackie French will inspire (i'd go with "Backyard Self-Sufficiency" to start with...see http://www.earthgarden.com.au ...they have a book shop)
if you can get your hand on any permaculture texts by holmgren or mollision...they have all the technical stuff.
can't go past jeff's book Permaculture Plants - it is full of productive plants - and has a great section on nuts!!!
1. plant broad beans everywhere and now. then slash them in spring and dig into the soil, or use as mulch on raised beds
2. for perennials, plant loads of asparagus - in rich deep soil in spring - just plant seeds - they'll be producing in a couple of years.
3. you'll be heading into a time when planting is not optimum - so plan, and read and design and do the earth moving and bed construction, collect loads of manure and waste to compost and come spring plant like crazy
24-04-2003, 09:00 PM
Thanks for the advice. The house is at Warrandyte in the north-eastern hills, and the micro-climate aspect is a definite issue, I think - while sheltered by some good trees (mainly eucalypts) which reduce the sun in the early am and afternoon, the site is steeply sloping. Access to the plants is an issue as well; I think the slope may help because building terraced beds may be necessary for the residents (relatives upon whom I am keen to try out the benefits of my PDC course!). Anyway, I am formulating 'the plan' at present and it will have to meet with approval but we'll see how we get on. Thanks again.
28-04-2003, 05:22 PM
ah. warrendyte. i grew up out at hurstbridge.
not sure if you've headed into edendale farm in eltham - but they'd have some great advice on local bushfoods and other good local knowledge that you could source.
also nillumbik shire's environmental officers are pretty progressive - i'd at least call them, suss out removing a few of the eucalypts, if you show you are looking at managing the block sustainably - i'm sure they'd be up for it.
just some more ideas...best of luck with the planning, ah the fun of it all!
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