Here is where the last tree went - in full colour too!

[Mike_E_from_NZ]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/p ... html/1.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/06/africa_charcoal_in_chad/html/1.stm)

What makes this so scary is that these people don't even have cars they have to turn the trees into alternative fuels for!

Mike

[bazman]

And the western world cuts down trees to make news paper so we can read about stories like this....

They are often doing this to survive, and we do it for something to read?

[Mike_E_from_NZ]

Hi Bazman

If it was only the newspaper, I might say it had a benefit by bringing this to our attention so we could do something different. But it is the junk mail too! Along with Mills and Boon stories. And, as was discussed at length here a while ago, we wipe our bums with rain forests.

We wonder how it is going to pan out here if things get tough. I don't think we need to wonder.

(I do question the sense in cutting down the remaining trees to send kids to school. But that is an entire debate in its own right, and that one probably belongs on http://www.hereshowschooldumbsdownourkids.com)

Mike

[bazman]

On one side you would stop people from eating and sending their children to school on the other side you stop an executive from buying a new BMW.

I see newspaper as a source for sheet mulching and thats about it, oh and a little sticker on the letter box saying "no junk mail" stops that waste here.

looking at a culture like this and pointing a finger at them as the BBC has is pathetic, they have to look at them selfs first. I wonder how much paper is wasted at the BBC each year?

If all the world ate like the USA in a year, we would use up all the worlds oil reserves in 7-10 years. The largest rapists of this planet is the western world.

[Mike_E_from_NZ]

Hi Bazman

I totally agree. In addition, if you look around our own countries you can see that it is sometimes a minority that do the lion's share of the damage that comes out of the west.

That is not to say that even the regular guy doesn't have some thinking to do.

Take pollution of the oceans as an example. Our lifestyles contibute immensely to this phenomenum. However, have a look at this and understand that very few people have anything to do with this little effort:

http://www.unknownnews.org/0511111103ch ... apons.html (http://www.unknownnews.org/0511111103chemicalweapons.html)

Pretty sick. A revolution might be the only thing that'll stop that little game.

Mike

[bazman]

I don't eat fish, sounds like a good thing.

Crap that is scary stuff.

When we had the USA aircraft carrier a few weeks back people all along the coast found bags of rubbish and more was found out to sea, floating miles behind it.